By Heather Laine Talley
Co-Director of Organizational Strategy and Practice at the Amy Mandel and Katina Rodis Fund
Heather grew up in South Louisiana, where she discovered social justice through Catholic workers who worked towards radically inclusive community. Since that time she has collaborated with community based organizations on campaigns for queer justice, racial equity, a transformed criminal justice system, and a world where women’s lives are celebrated. Additionally, Heather has been a co-creator of programs designed to fortify the wellbeing of adolescent girls, children with burn injury, and incarcerated women.
In 1998 while she was a student at UNCA, Heather fell in love with Asheville. After graduation, she completed a Ph.D. in sociology and a graduate certificate in gender and sexuality studies at Vanderbilt University. Through her work as a teacher, writer, and community worker, she mastered the craft of synthesizing complex ideas and the art of telling stories. These are essential skills in social justice work because looking at our communities from a different vantage point can change our lives and our world.
Since 2014 following a university teaching career, Heather has served a trainer, consultant, and program developer for non-profit organizations and socially conscious ventures, invested in thinking outside of the box. On the weekends, Heather’s on a hike with her spouse Lee and two gorgeous mutt dogs. Her greatest joy is cooking for and feeding chosen family.
During our “pause for the cause,” AMKRF has entered a time of organizational reflection and analysis building. As a part of our work, we are sharing reflections about what we’ve learned in the process of building relationships with one another and analyzing power, white supremacy, oppression, alongside liberation.
“One of the purposes of listing characteristics of white supremacy culture is to point out how organizations which unconsciously use these characteristics as their norms and standards make it difficult, if not impossible, to open the door to other cultural norms and standards. As a result, many of our organizations, while saying we want to be multicultural, really only allow other people and cultures to come in if they adapt or conform to already existing cultural norms. Being able to identify and name the cultural norms and standards you want is a first step to making room for a truly multi-cultural organization.” Kenneth Jones and Tema Okun***
Unpacking white supremacy culture–how it shows up in our organizations, in our homes, in our words, and in our thoughts–transcends surface level analysis about equity. As we’ve shared, AMKRF has been reflecting on how white supremacy is reflected in our organizational culture and structure.
Since the violent Charlottesville protests, images of white nationalists are a daily part of our media landscape, but these pictures are dominated by the faces of white men, who unapologetically display their violence, rage, contempt. But white supremacy culture is gendered. White women do white supremacy…differently. White supremacy and patriarchal gender norms converge to create a toxic slurry of behaviors that impact what white women’s racism looks like. Oftentimes, the racism white women perpetuate is less visible, but it is dangerous to think that it is less pernicious.
As our analysis of white supremacy has grown, I’ve found myself asking what are the everyday ways white women show up that maintain white supremacy in a sector that is, ostensibly, about making the world a more just place.
Over the last two decades, I’ve worked in education and nonprofits, spaces where white women disproportionately occupy positions of leadership. I am a white, queer woman, a Southerner, with the disposition, education, and credentials that are (over)valued in these sectors. Historically, AMKRF has been led exclusively by white women and remains a disproportionately white staff.
In the spirit of Tema Okun and Kenneth Jones’ foundational and critically important work on characteristics of white supremacy culture, I’ve compiled a list of characteristics that I have both observed in other white women and have participated in myself with insidious consequences. Oftentimes, I could feel in my body that something wasn’t right, but I lacked the language to connect what was happening to deeply entrenched patterns of white supremacy.
Naming these patterns is not about calling out other white women or distancing myself from whiteness. My own behavior reflects these patterns and has perpetrated harm in ways I did not comprehend in the moment. I have been called on these practices. Sometimes, I heard what folks were trying to tell me. In other instances, it’s taken me years to see the impact of my behaviors.
I believe the following patterns are an important part of the story about why a sector that aims to do good so often falls short of its vision.
Disavowal of Power
One effect of patriarchy is that white women have a complicated relationship with power, which leads to regularly denying/ignoring/downplaying how much power we hold. We invite people to collaborate without explicitly naming who holds the power as a decision maker. We invite other people’s feedback and then proceed with our version of what’s best. In reality, we faux-collaborate. Another way we deny our power is by saying “I don’t know” a lot. Not knowing is often a cover for “Finding out would be too much work.” “The answer to your question reveals inequitable practices that I don’t want to own up to.” “I’ve never asked that question, but you are pointing to something important. I am ashamed I did not ask your question before.”
Antidotes: Deep self reflection about the power we hold and what healthy power looks like. Cultivating relationships with people who will give us honest feedback about how we wield power. Transparent communication about our power with colleagues and community. Concrete responses to feedback and questions, for example, “Let me find out and get back to you by X.”; “What you’re asking about is a place where we are failing to live into our values/mission/vision.”; “That policy/decision/way of doing things is not informed by a deep understanding of equity, and that is a problem that I am committed to solving by doing X.” Honesty about who has the decision making power, when decisions have been made, and whether or not additional input will change a decision.
Obsession with the Future
Women have inherited patriarchal, capitalist models of leadership. A focus on growing, expanding, or working towards an ambitious vision often trumps what is happening in the present moment. Relationships aren’t cultivated. Feedback is dismissed. This obsession with what is coming (over and above what is) leads white women to overlook challenges that need tending in the current moment. We justify this by imagining that the future vision will magically address the problems of the current reality. Ironically, dismissing present realities in favor of a vision of the future is a surefire way to undermine the future.
Antidotes: Grounding practices that build our capacity to regulate nervous system reactions that feed urgency and anxiety. Regular check ins with staff, boards, and volunteers and reflect on the following questions: Does the way we conduct this meeting reflect our values? Are my values (and our organi